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Speaking with the former Speaker of the House and now Minority Leader, I was wondering how best to bring up the topic of campaign finance reform, but she beat me to it.

We spent a fair bit of the afternoon with her today, and she came out blazing, saying how the Democrats will “outspend out-position and out-redistrict them.”

And, coming from the highest-ranking female politician in American history, I was pleased to hear her say that majority of the seats that they intend to win back will be women. “Women will take back the House.”

On the Republican Presidential candidates: “You don’t have the A team or the B team. They want to save their bid for the next election where they might win. You have a C-team of candidates.”

Then the open-ended question: what will the policy agenda be for the next four years? We spent 1.5 hours on this topic, but she started with one and only one imperative: election reform. I told her it was on my mind having just read Lessig’s book.

“The three steps are Disclose, Reform, Amend. 1) Disclose. Federal elections need to disclose the donors, like we do in California. 2) Reform and 3) a Constitutional Amendment to overturn the Citizens United Supreme Court case (whereby corporations were ruled to be like people in their ability to donate to campaigns as an expression of free speech, but bizarrely, they are unlike people in that they are not limited in the size of those donations and can remain anonymous.)”

“This will be the greatest change for our country.”

“Many Republicans will try to block it. They spent $75M trying to defeat me last time.”

“It’s for America. If the Republicans took it on, we should support them.”

And then in a sweet and kind voice: “I have to walk in their shoes, so I can fight them better.”

“In December 2004 I met with Steve Jobs and asked ‘Can you help us rebrand the Democratic Party?’ He replied ‘You can’t brand yourself when you don’t know who you are.’ He later offered “Energy is an issue you can work around. But you have to get private sector advice. No political branding people.’”

“Intel CEO Craig Barrett was emphatic – if you have one issue, it has to be energy.”

“Then Bush won and we had an ethical issue – corruption, cronyism and incompetence. They hired their friends. It was a cash and carry operation, pay to play. Then came Katrina.”

“Our message will be Rebuilding America, and the more specific the better. It will be broadband, water systems, and reigniting the American Dream.”

“For the Republicans, ‘it’s faith or science, take your pick.’ For us, it’s science, science, science, science. For healthcare, for the economy, for the environment, for education, it’s science. Anna Eshoo expressed her exasperation ‘You wouldn’t believe it. We are dealing with people who don’t believe in science.’ With the COMPETES Act, they fought it with tears in their eyes. This was a commitment to science in education. The Republican leadership opposed it.”

“The coal patch is the worst. They deny science.”

“We have smart kids who are undereducated. Nothing, nothing brings more money to the U.S. Treasury than education of the people. From early childhood to K-12 to adult reeducation and lifelong learning.”

“I was with Obama and pointed to Lincoln on the wall. ‘Public sentiment is everything’ he famously said. You have to explain what you have accomplished to the people.”

“The Republicans say there is no government role in clear air, clean water, public education, public safety, public health, Medicare, or social security. You need a public role to get that done for all. This particular breed of cat is not the Republican you know as your neighbor; this particular breed is dangerous to children and other living things.”

And that was the end. On the way out, I showed her the space artifacts in my office and she particularly liked the Apollo Fuel Cell =)

21 responses to “Nancy Pelosi on the Next Four Years”

  1. It’s nice to get a taste of what these powerful people are thinking about. Thank you for sharing.

    I’ve become disillusioned by politics and even more so by the citizens who keep electing corrupt, greedy idiots. I’ve lost faith in the Democratic party; it seems they are not just a rag-tag unkempt group but actively build up support just to trade it off to the Republicans in the name of bi-partisanship. So we end up choosing between evil incarnate and those who’d sell us out.

    Kinda want to see Ron Paul destroy the current government just so we can rebuild it. Only thing is, we’re so gullible we’d elect the same type of politicians to build the new country. It’s so sad, we have such unbelievable potential to make not only our country great, but the world.

  2. this is the despair Lessig writes about… See the summary here

  3. She looks and sounds nice – i would love to see a really intelligent woman as a president and do not even understand why it is such a big deal in the 21st century? One problem with politics these 4 years in the office: anybody on this planet is thinking long term and has a large picture in mind? Some rhetoric questions… education and science are very important indeed.

  4. I have to remind myself that ideological polarization is unproductive. It’s difficult to remain dispassionate and objective when issues I care about profoundly such as science, education and the environment are being championed by one party and reviled by another. I think Barney Frank recently explained the problem as well as anyone has.

    "At any given moment in America we are govened by the last three elections, not one election. We have United States Senators elected in 2006, we have United States Senators and the President elected in 2008, and we United States Senators and the House of Representatives elected in 2010. What happened was that the public more than at any other time I can remember in American history made a very drastic shift in their views. They elected, decisively, the Democrats in 2008 and then shifted, at least the people who voted, shifted in 2010. So what you have are two incompatible groups of people in office, so the paralysis is not a case of personality, it’s not a case of mechanics, that is, that’s the way the American system works so until you get an election that brings more harmony in there…I don’t see much happening" ~U.S. Representative Barney Frank January 5, 2012 speaking on the Charlie Rose show. (quote at 21:00)

  5. Yes, if a candidate had to disclose the top 50 donors or all donations over a certain dollar amount even that would be a big improvement. One corporation could get around it by making many small donations through different sources, but at least it would be a start.

  6. Yes, and Pelosi told us that It worked in California. When PG&E spent $16M on a campaign, the fact that they supported was self defeating. Same for a CA proposition backed by two TX oil companies.

    Meanwhile, at 9% approval, Americans prefer porn, polygamy, the BP oil spill and punting to communism over Congress…. ouch!

    Popularity of Congress

  7. i don’t know how much she will be able to implement her thoughts…..

  8. this graph is confusing: kinda comparing apples to oranges:) But i see congress still made it over Fidel Castro:D why we still even talk about communism in the 21st century? this ideology was dead for ages for a reason… hope mankind will not go in circles again and again forever. Furthermore, America as a world leader needs to be better educated about the world outside America in the first place. Most watch TV and TV is stagnant.

  9. The lady on the left looks insightful. Would you mind sharing here who she is? And what are her thoughts/comments on this?

  10. Amazingly, Nixon keeps looking better over time… actually tied with the banksters of today, and both well above Paris Hilton and current congress. To have lived through the watergate era and its dramatic people and press power, and now live in these times is an exrtraordinary contrast.

  11. She was talking up election reform and education instead of addressing the runaway government spending and debt that she helped to create. Is there not a tipping point for a democracy when the majority are able to vote themselves government business, government jobs, and government handouts?

  12. The Democrats and their welfare programs are responsible for ruining 2+ generations of minorities. The handouts were self defeating, killing individual initiative. They want to keep minorities as wards of the state to capture their vote.

  13. i want to say some thing ….political reform is not easy …and will always be opposed by that ingredient that called money ….

    i am from syria … in our country they teach politics starting from the 6th grade….and with that we saw the arab spring

    now if normal person did not care about politics then the political machine is meaning less

  14. Wanted to add something: politics and science go well together, "politics and religion" is poison. Communist ideology is another poison. And corruption is cancer. I am for restoring health when it comes to politics. Politicians are puppets in a way, one small wish in 2012 – global elite or global fate or global god – please do not insult our intelligence and do at least a half way decent job selecting next puppet, do not want another Bush or Palin.

  15. I don’t know…maybe "socialism"….minus all the ideology and corruption is actually not such a bad system….

  16. Did Pelosi commented on the Supreme Court rejecting the Corporate Campaign Spending limit (Jan of 2010)?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22scotus.html

  17. “Women will take back the House.” Loved that!

    As always, thx for sharing, Steve!

  18. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/15752486@N07] – yes – you’ll see she mentioned Citizens United by name in paragraph 6 of the caption.

  19. Exquisite bust, Nancy

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