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The Apollo stack en route to the moon… and a SpaceX Dragon docked to a Bigelow space hotel (in comments below). I just saw these on a table, and they remind me of two of my dreams.

People sometimes ask me when I plan to fly in space. I have two specific missions in mind, and I don’t have much interest in voyaging out there until they are available:

• spending a few days in a commercial space hotel in low Earth orbit and

• a lunar orbital mission, going much closer to the surface than Apollo X, but not landing.

Why? And why not a suborbital flight?

The two main attractions for me are the views, and the zero-g experience. These experiences are not tightly bundled – in fact, they trade off a bit for the suborbital space flights that will soon be available.

1) Weightlessness

Having done the zero-g flights on a specialized plane, I highly recommend the weightless experience, and those parabolic flights are so much more accessible and affordable today than a suborbital flight. It’s not an extended period of zero-g, but in 30-60 second episodes, you can play in weightlessness for a lot longer per dollar spent. For $5K, you can get 12 of those episodes. For $200K+, you can fly a future Virgin Galactic flight, for a total of 5 or 6 minutes of weightlessness [Update on October 2014: it is now 3.5 to 4 minutes]. So, as far as weightlessness goes, you can get more of it for 40x less cost. To be fair, it is broken up into many pieces, but that gives you time to learn and plan for the next one before it’s all over.

But the comparison worsens still when you compare quality. The available space for movement is much, much greater in the airplane than a suborbital rocket (where the best of them might let you get out of the seat for a bit to bumble about in a small cabin, but you have to get back and buckled in for reentry with plenty of time to spare).

On a zero-g plane, in contrast, you can do “superman” flights over 30 foot stretches. You can build inverted human pyramids or “play ball” tossing someone in the fetal position back and forth. You can do various experiments with spin stabilized bananas or water droplets. We did all that on my first flight (video). On my next flight, I want to bring a light framed hiking backpack with compressed air canisters (like we use for lens cleaning) duct-taped at right angles along the periphery, with remote cable triggers…. Yes, a compressed air jet pack. What could possibly go wrong? =)

On a suborbital rocket ride, I doubt you could bring many props. And zero-g play time trades off with window time. That’s the killer for me. I would want to plant myself at a window, and hope that they would let me bring a DSLR. I suspect I would not have much time to play in zero-g.

So I decouple the weightless experience from the suborbital flight experience, and that brings me to the views.

2) The views

This is the main draw for me. For good photos with various lenses, for planetary coverage, for that zen-like trance that Michael Collins, Rusty Schwieckart and others have described so well, you need some time up there.

So now the cost goes up dramatically, for now, since the cost of an orbital insertion takes 25x as much energy. Since the launch vehicle is even more cramped than some of the suborbital vehicles, you would ideally go somewhere with room for play over an extended stay. In orbit, you see many sunrises and sunsets and night lights, a magical experience for photographers and those with an eye for beauty.

Today, the main option for a destination is the ISS, but you have to learn Russian and train with them for quite a while. Oh, and when the Shuttle stopped servicing the station, Soyuz raised prices to $63M per head. Better to wait a few years when competition from commercial crew providers lower price 10x or, if all goes well, 100x.

Waiting has another advantage: I would rather visit a commercial space hotel, with better toilets and better windows optimized for tourism by design. They may even have better food. =) But trust me on the toilet.

Test units are in orbit already. As launch costs plummet, they may open for business.

Then, I want to go to the moon, again, mainly for the photography. For this trip, there would not be as many creature comforts or space for weightless play, but the views are pretty breathtaking. Earthrise, the dark side of the moon, Earth and moon at various distances.

Since the moon has no atmosphere, it presents a unique orbital opportunity – we could fly a few thousand feet above the surface while staying in lunar orbit. Apollo X dropped to an orbit 47K feet off the surface – like a private jet altitude over Earth.

If the goal is tourism, you could go much lower, and with no landing, it could have a downward facing window optimized for the views. I would want to figure out the tradeoff of orbital altitude and surface speed — skimming a thousand feet over the highest point would be amazing, but might be dizzying. But, since the moon has 1/6 the mass of Earth, the orbital speeds at any given altitude are about 1/6 as fast… so it could be slow and low, that is the tempo… =)

Why not land? The cost and complexity just explodes, as the Russians discovered in the space race. For a new tourist activity, so does the risk. And to what benefit? With the full Apollo stack with EV on the moon, yes, you could cover some distance, but not as much as you can see in orbit. Bouncing around on foot just does not grab me as an essential first person experience. And, moon gravity and Mars gravity is easily simulated on the parabolic planes if that’s the key attraction.

And all that weight and design constraint would likely tradeoff with the window-optimized design. I would rather spend more time in orbit, at various heights, than attempt a landing.

I do wonder about a spacewalk. These EVA activities are a much easier engineering challenge, and might not tradeoff with the earlier goals. Michael Collins marveled at his EVA in Earth orbit:

“This is the best view of the universe that a human has ever had. We are gliding across the world in total silence, with absolute smoothness; a motion of stately grace which makes me feel God-like as I stand erect in my sideways chariot, cruising the night sky.

I am in the cosmic arena, the place to gain a celestial perspective; it remains only to slow down long enough to capture it, even a teacup will do, will last a lifetime below.

(I shared his further description of the magic here; it drives my intuition about windows and transformational experiences.)

On the Apollo lunar missions, the EVAs occurred on the trip back from the moon (to remove film from the scientific bay for example) but not in lunar orbit. Imagine a tethered space walk soaring over the lunar surface…

3,4,5) For some, there are other critical factors, so it’s worth acknowledging that, even if they don’t appeal to me personally. Some are thrill seekers, and like being on the cutting edge of dangerous activities. Some are enthralled with the coolness of the technology – a suborbital rocket flight is a better bar story than a parabolic zero-g plane flight. Symbolism and bragging rights can also be uniquely special for some people, like being the first person from a small nation to voyage in space. I see how that can be exciting back in the home country… and being able to say you’re an astronaut, if only for just a few minutes. =)

When you dream
What do you dream about
Do you dream about music
Or mathematics
Or planets too far for the eye?
Do you dream about Jesus
Or quantum mechanics
Or angels who sing lullabyes?
His fontanelle pulses
With lives that he’s lived
With memories he’ll learn to ignore
And when it is closed
He already knows
He’s forgotten all he knew before
But when sleep sets in
History begins
But the future will win
When you dream
What do you dream about?
Barenaked Ladies

18 responses to “My Space Travel Dreams”

  1. Here is the SpaceX to Bigelow model:IMG_1723NewSpace Models by Philip Mills

    It’s inflatable…IMG_1732

  2. that last photo reminds me of a woody allen scene in the movie ‘Sleeper’. except the large shiny ball he ‘uses’ is solid and not gas-filled 😉

  3. Yes, taking pictures from space is really fascinating…

  4. G-Force One?

    G-Force One

    Regarding suborbital flight, you can watch the Virgin Galactic CEO describe the experience live at 3:45pm PST at the NewSpace conference webcast.

    And over lunch, Ed Lu from B612 will be speaking. Find out how we hope to avert things like this:

    Circling Meteor Crater

  5. The song here reminds me "Prophesies and reversed memories" by MUM

  6. Someday, you’ll revisit this page and post photos and follow-up story from space!

  7. Yes! Great idea. The flickr time capsule is good for this…

    P.S. My NewSpace2012 talk just went online, but the audio is a bit out of sync.

    And the SpaceX dream just came closer to reality with today’s NASA crew announcement

  8. Great post Steve. Follow your dream! 🙂

  9. Interesting updates: Golden Spike plans to send tourists to the moon. WIRED:

    A private enterprise named the Golden Spike Company announced today that they have plans to fly manned crews to the moon and back for a price of $1.5 billion per flight by 2020. It seems a bit unbelievable that a private company can recreate Apollo at an order of magnitude lower cost.

    While there are now rockets that can bring a payload to low-Earth orbit, only the enormous Saturn V could launch a vehicle to space large enough to take people to the moon and back. No rocket available today, public or private, has that kind of power.

    "today"… stay tuned… =)

    Meanwhile, Branson expressed his frustration:

    Asked about Virgin Galactic, Branson said he has “stopped counting” days to the launch because it gets delayed “to the next year, to the next year.”

  10. Saturn V, a legendary German rocket….
    took the Americans 20 years to figure out the greatness of it’s design.

    yet another example of "no one would listen"…..

  11. You mean the V-2 in Germany… which we imported, along with Von Braun and key engineers, so they could design and build the Saturn V in the U.S. There were no Saturn V rockets, or even paper designs, in Germany…

  12. i knew you would point that out 🙂
    but could not resist a dig at bureaucrats who think they can compare science projects…..

  13. Steve, just to clarify, you can’t get more than thirty seconds of weightlessness in a subsonic aircraft. The longer durations are for lunar or Mars gravity simulation.

  14. Good clarification – 30 second episodes for weightlessness and 60 second for Mars-gravity. And that makes a difference…. 30 is on the short end for many of the fun activities….

    Radial Scatter

  15. and oh, the things we will see…Orbital Hotel Dreaming

  16. I wrote an 2020 update as suborbital hoppers are finally expected to come online, hereOrbital vs Suborbital Space Tourism

  17. and nine years later, we have out first suborbital customer speaking out (who is not a founder or employee)…

    As a reminder, my two predictions:
    1) weightlessness would be too short and cramped
    2) views would be underwhelming versus astronaut dreams

    Here the first customer review: "Wally Funk is giving Jeff Bezos’ spaceflight a two-star review. ‘We went right on up and I saw darkness. I thought I was going to see the world, but we weren’t quite high enough,’ said Funk, who’s now the oldest person to travel to space.

    In the footage shared by Blue Origin, passengers appear to be able to see the edge of the Earth’s atmosphere and a bit of curve in the horizon as well as the blackness of space, but as Funk put it, it’s not quite enough to see the whole world in one view.

    Additionally, Funk added at the post-flight press conference, she would have liked to have spent longer in zero gravity on the flight to ‘do a lot more rolls and twists and so forth. But there was not quite enough room for all four of us to do all those things’" — NY Post

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