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Speaking to the Western Association of Venture Capitalists today. Over lunch, and a smaller session with the Board:

In less than one month, this decade will be over. As we used to say in the Clinton administration, mistakes were made.

Healthcare. Does anyone understand what is happening? [no hands] Here it is. If you are an insurance company in America, it makes no sense to insure a 57 year old with diabetes. If you are a 24 year old, it makes no sense for you to take medical insurance. All variations of the solution force people who don’t need insurance to buy it, and that covers the 57 year old with diabetes. The only fix is to force people who don’t need it to buy it.

Afghanistan: There was no passion in the votes. The usual suspects were for and against. That’s because nobody has a better idea. It took 5 months to split the baby – we’ll give them 30K more troops but withdraw them in 2011. If you want to know what a quagmire looks like, this is it. Obama started with 50K troops, added 20K, and now 30K more.

Khazai is amazingly cynical and corrupt. The country is run by warlords and drug lords, and they don’t want a government in Kabul. The deal was that they would deliver the votes if you leave us alone. And if you want a job, you have to work for them. Unlike The French Connection, they now process the heroin into cakes, and it is very portable.

Do you know how much the average marine carries in Afghanistan? 117 lbs. on average. (It’s largely body armor, most recently to protect the underarms from snipers who can hit that target when arms are raised.) And it is not flat terrain. Imagine the cost in medical bills when they turn 45 years old with back pain. That’s why the total cost of the wars is $3 trillion.

The Taliban is only 4% of the people, but if chaos reigns, they will kill all the barbers and math teachers.

I am very dark on the climate question. I wish I had better news.

2010: I’m a Democrat, obviously. I don’t have any good news for you. We are going to lose the House. That’s going to happen.

Now the Republicans don’t like their own party. And everyone else can’t stand them.

But if unemployment is over 10%, the incumbent will not win.

2012: If you look at the polls of how favorable people regard the Democratic Party and add their regard of the Republican Party, it’s the lowest it’s ever been. The trend is declining faith in political parties. Partisanship will be worse in 2012. Somebody will rise up as a third party.

So, you are probably imagining a fiscal conservative, who is socially liberal, and supports free trade and invests in education. [cheers] Sure, that’s what most grad school educated people would say. But that’s not the third party that you’re going to see. The new party will campaign that America best ought to start taking care of its own. It will be a combo of the white GGGG Republicans who care about God, Guns, Gays and now Gold and the racially diverse Democrats that have seen their lives crushed and they want a champion to stand up for them. They look to government to soften the harsher edges of capitalism and they see an unfair system, which Obama has not changed.

So you just need a modern antichrist to step in . It wouldn’t be hard to write a stump speech for them.

Here are three observations:
1) We have an expensive system of retirement security. The only area of healthcare where the U.S. leads is in life expectancy over 65 years old. And that’s expensive.
2) We spend more on defense than all other countries combined.
3) Of the 30 Industrialized nations, we have the lowest per capita taxes paid.

Something is going to change by 2013.

If there is an answer, it is in this room. We have to become more productive. The real credit for the Clinton economic boom goes to an an enormous productivity spike. If we are going to have another, it will come from you guys. Deep down inside, we have great young people, and we are the best in the world at innovation.

Q: Can you compare Obama in 2010 to Clinton losing Congress in 1992-3?
A; Well, I would guess that the health care bill will pass by a slight margin. Clinton did not have that. But we don’t know if Obama can take a lick. He hasn’t been beat yet. But Clinton did not have the war. And this is a nasty, nasty recession. With Clinton, we got beat so bad it looked like we couldn’t govern. We just weren’t that good in the first two years. The ’93 budget was a great accomplishment, but it was not apparent then.

Q: VCs represent only .1% of investment but create 20% of GDP growth and new jobs. How can we have political representation relative to our impact, when we are so few?

A: What percent of the country is Jewish? [long pause, 2% is offered up as a guess] Right. But just try to go against Israel. It would be end of days, wrath of god type stuff. I say this with admiration. They are very well organized.

Figure out who will be in power Rangel won’t be there long. He’s 76 and might get his ass indicted. Schumer is with you, but forget Kansas.

Q: China?
A: Historically they have not been expansionist. The standing assumption is that they need out market, so they buy our debt. But with their GDP growing 7.8% versus our 2.8% the great fear is that Beijing turns to their internal market, and India and Brazil, and decides they do not need America. That is the doomsday scenario.

9 responses to “James Carville Unplugged”

  1. An insightful summary of some of our biggest problems… Thanks for posting this.

  2. On the 3rd party, I think he sounds purposefully intriguing. Between Sarah Palin and Ron Paul we can imagine how the Reps get all the votes otherwise associated with some 3rd party.

    The best statement: (A) "If there is an answer, it is in this room. We have to become more productive. The real credit for the Clinton economic boom goes to an an enormous productivity spike. (B) If we are going to have another, it will come from you guys. Deep down inside, we have great young people, and we are the best in the world at innovation."
    I only wish politicos took the latter part (B) of such statements to heart, yet all the signs point to the fact that they do not. I would argue that Mr. Carville is not making most sense when talking about productivity (A). The concept itself is as old as capitalism, yet when we stopped increasing productivity organically we started off-shoring. Good short term fix, not so good anymore.

    What happened during Clinton had been premised by colossal investments in ages prior. In other words, I’d contrast systemic productivity problems to one-off type of events.

    At a more fundamental level, we’d have to answer something like: Do we look for one-time fixes, or try for more?

    Carville’s suggestion to better organize (following some singular example) shows again that politicians in DC don’t know/care about VCs. Otherwise, they’d have done something by now to, say, alleviate the effects of SOX on exit strategies and such.

    Last but not least, Mr. Carville’s takes on China and Afghanistan are rather indicative for how far he is from the center of power. We could figure all those on our own, the real question is why do actors behave as they do in spite of such considerations?

    Thank you for sharing!

  3. Interesting to apply Carville’s flawed argument on health insurance to life insurance. Force those who don’t need life insurance, to pay for the life insurance of those who do need it. You see, at 24, you don’t need life insurance; at 50, or at 65 you "need" life insurance, but it’s a lot more expensive to acquire it at that point. Clearly the solution is to force everyone under the age of 50 to pay for the life insurance for those over the age of 50. IE Those under 50 should have been forced to pay for my now deceased mother’s non-existent life insurance policy circa 2002. That concept is called slavery and it’s pure evil: it’s the idea of enslaving one person to another person’s life context, choices, circumstances, and "needs." The USSR tried that, but hey, we’ll just try it in a less extreme form, it won’t evolve into anything more evil than the initial, supposed, good intentions. I think pretty much all Americans realize we’ve been gradually melting down for decades as a society, slowly ripping apart and going bankrupt; it’s not a coincidence that that has coincided with the move from Capitalism to Socialism. The melting pot only worked because of the freedom courtesy of Capitalism (which is why Europe can’t integrate its Muslim populations; they’re feeding off the welfare state, rather than integrating). It’ll accelerate the further we get away from the free market. It’s a moot point anyway, this is all a joke: the country is bankrupt already, the debate is just about momentary plunder of the remaining scraps.

    There’s no stronger moral argument for health insurance than there is for life insurance. Having lost both of my parents at a relatively young age I know this for a fact. Try selling the premise however, of forcing people who don’t need life insurance to pay for other people’s life insurance, it’s hyper illogical and will fail financially regardless as socialism / statism always does ultimately.

    How about we apply the concept to other supposed needs. I need car insurance, others must be forced at gun point to pay for my car insurance. How else can I hold a job or be successful in life without a vehicle? It’s a clear necessity.

    Public works, statism and entitlements have rotted every great civilization, we’ll be no different given the current trajectory. It’s a simple extrapolated calculation. Global statism has pushed debt to GDP ratios off the charts in the first world, while countries like China and India with little to no ‘social net,’ are rapidly accelerating past the dying old world that has become filled with lazy entitlement monsters.

  4. The Congress is having to raise the the debt limit to what, $13 trillion? We have a federal government that expands almost without limit regardless of the condition of the overall economy. Economy showing healthy growth? Government grows faster. Economy grows slowly? Government grows faster. Economy contracting? Government expands anyway, faster than ever. Debt be damned, we’ll pay for it another day. We now just assume that the debt will grow endlessly. How is that possible?

    "If there is an answer…we have to become more productive." I’d say so, to pay for federal spending, present and past. We’re already very productive. What if a productivity spike to rival the internet boom doesn’t come around anytime soon? Carville’s only answer to the problem of unsustainable federal spending is to raise taxes. Ok. But to what level would you have to raise taxes to cover spending at current levels and $13 trillion in debt? And what sort of economy do you have left at that point?

    Increasingly, it looks like our big plan is to spend all we can get our hands on, kick the can down the road, and hope for a miracle that will save us from ourselves. This is the best leadership we can come up with?

    To paraphrase Carville, it’s the spending, stupid!

  5. Jonathan Ruff, I hate to throw cold water on your ranting about insurance, but your level of under standing of insurance does not even come up to sophomoric. Statistical evidence shows that we can predict quite closely the number of "losses" that will occur within a large sample of "risks."

    Take automobile insurance for example. We know that younger drivers have more accidents than older people. The risks associated with insuring young drivers is higher than those associated with insuring older drivers. Therefore insurance companies charge more for the premiums for younger drivers. Because of the social consequences of automobile accidents we as a society have chosen to require all drivers to have auto insurance. And auto insurance requirements have become more complicated over the years. Now we insure not just the physical vehicle; but we provide liability coverage, personal medical coverage, un-insured and under-insured coverage.

    Compare this to home-owners insurance. Here, if you have a mortgage, your lender requires you to provide insurance on the building that is your home. This is to protect their interest. And, like auto insurance, homeowner’s insurance has grown in complexity. When you buy a policy, you get coverage for the building, detached buildings (a shop or a garage), and for your contents. You also get coverage for the extra expenses incurred as a result of a loss (a hotel room while your home is being repaired). Coverage has gone from “named perils” to “all risk” give very broad coverage.

    Now compare your auto premium to your homeowner premium. I think that you find it costs the average person the same to cover one car as it does to insure a home.

    Life insurance has many uses. The most common is for your survivors to receive money in the event you die. But there are many other persons and entities that could suffer a loss, a financial loss, if you were to die. Actors doing a movie; business partners, especially in small firms; etc. Also, farmers and others use life insurance for their descendants to pay for estate taxes. The older you get the more likely you are to die. So certain kinds of life insurance increase their premiums as you get older. If you buy “Whole Life” as a young person, however, your premium generally will remain the same throughout your life. The statistically tables governing life insurance premiums are Very accurate, so life companies can set their premiums with a great deal of confidence.

    Now to Health Insurance. Once upon a time, health insurance operated like life insurance, that is, the underwriters could set premiums with confidence. This is no longer the case. Health maintenance has become very expensive for a myriad of reasons. The entire industry has become so politicized as respects insurance coverage and premiums that a whole new set of rules must be created. That is what our politicians are trying to do. And because it is a political issue, there is controversy, lots of it. The House Bill that was recently passed had about 1900 pages. Much of it had nothing to do with insurance.

    I feel as though I have no control over this process other than the officials I help to elect. You don’t either, so you are frustrated. Let’s hope our elected officials can put together a package and that it will be better than what we have now. I think it has be come a “right,” like many other of our daily things, to have access to medical treatment and a way to pay for it. No one wants any person or family to suffer financial loss because of cost associated with medical issues. Let’s hope our officials keep this in mind as they do their work.

  6. But if unemployment is over 10%, the incumbent will not win.

    What happens if it’s not?

    Obviously a long time between then and now, but let’s look on the bright side, eh?

  7. Anyone feeling optimistic about health care would have to disregard the federal government’s most recent attempt at reform. Look at Medicare Part D, one of the unsung debacles of the Bush administration, passed in 2003. Here was a plan that was supposed to cost $400 billion. But the cost estimate was revised to $1.2 trillion within 12 months of passage. Yes, that would be a 300% increase. No one knows what it will actually cost, of course.

    The bill set up a system that is the worst of government intervention coupled with the worst of free enterprise. Drug companies get to charge whatever they like for medications, the government has no power to negotiate price, and the American taxpayer is on the hook for the grand total.

    Keep those experiences in mind next time some one throws out numbers on the cost of the new legislation. The truth is, no one knows what reforming the whole system will cost. What we do know is that whatever it is, the American taxpayer will once again be on the hook. Most likely, the cost of rebooting the whole system will make the billions spent on Medicare Part D look like a rounding error.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9328-2005Feb8.html

  8. Ned – Yes, that was his point actually….. We have to hope if isn’t 10+%

  9. Thanks so much for posting these comments. Carville is a badass. And you are wise to know and learn from him.

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