Thiel is a great writer, IMHO, and thought-provoking with some fringe-worthy truths. Yet, I often disagree with his inductive leaps from the social criticism. For example, Thiel has been lamenting the lack of progress, economically and technologically, for several years now. He first told me that stagnant wages over the past 50 years in America means that Moore’s Law was an illusion over that time period. I disagreed, seeing an easier answer in globalization and accelerating income inequality.

And now, in his book review of The Decadent Society, Thiel argues that the perceived lack of tech progress is a sign that science has stagnated. I disagree. As the primary process for making progress, the scientific method is in florid bloom across the sciences. Innovation is broad and profound as long as you are scanning the frontiers of the future and not the fountainheads of the past. As seen in the computational-capability abstraction of Moore’s Law, humanity’s capacity to compute has continually compounded for 120 years. The combinatorial explosion of possible idea-pairings should continue to foment new ideas and new inventions and drive accelerating change… unless, we somehow lose the ability to vet the ideas we consider to be true.

Rather than a slowing of science as the autocatalytic origin of progress, perhaps we can explain Thiel’s lack of perceived progress as a growing societal alienation from science — not just the advances, but the process of learning itself. (Consider, as just one example, the breathtaking advances in genomics counterposed to a growing fear of genetic engineering and distrust of its practitioners.) The polarization of progress is more worrisome than the simplistic, and perpetually incorrect induction that innovation has stagnated.

Here’s some of the provocative prose from the P.T. (Barnum) of futurism:

“Every aspect of decadence feeds back into the others. Legal sclerosis is likely a bigger obstacle to the adoption of flying cars than any engineering problem. Poor transportation makes it more expensive to raise a family and so lowers birth rates. Aging brings risk-aversion and arrests creativity.

Choosing agency over boomer complacency, The Decadent Society sets the stakes for the most urgent public debate of the 2020s: How do we get back to the future?

A renaissance will require motivational goals. To be motivational, a goal must be both ambitious and achievable.

For technologists, that means pursuing goals that are difficult but possible: cures for cancer and Alzheimer’s; compact nuclear reactors and fusion power. For statesmen, that means deconstructing the corrupt institutions that have falsely claimed to pursue those goals on our behalf.

It is a paradox of our time that the path to radical progress begins with moderation. Extreme optimism and fatalistic pessimism may seem to be stark opposites, but they both end in apathy. If things were sure to improve or bound to collapse, then our actions would not matter one way or the other.

Not only do our actions matter, I believe they matter eternally. If we do not find a way to take the narrow and moderate path, then we may find out that stagnation and decadence were all that kept immoderate men from stumbling into the apocalypse.”

P.S. For a short example of a spectacular failure of inductive reasoning… this debate was 2012, just before the Model S shipped: “We cannot come up with dramatically better batteries because all of the chemicals have been discovered that exist on the periodic table.” — Thiel

8 responses to “Peter Thiel’s Failed Futurism”

  1. “Fountainheads of the past?” Elon Musk is more of a Howard Roark than anyone today. Steve… you’re trying way too hard to take cheap shots of Ayn Rand and Thiel.
    You’ve also got a huge blind spot with how much control you want to hand over to the Govt to orchestrate everything for everyone. But sure… keep hating on Thiel and self made Soviet Escapee Rand, for revealing the toxic nature of govt.

  2. What strange leap of logic is this? I have said nothing of the gov’t and by no means think what you falsely assert. I zeroed in on one point: Thiel’s assertion that science has stagnated. This is where Thiel argues that the book author does not go far enough. As for all of the other points in the book, as summarized and selected by Thiel, I find them very interesting indeed,

  3. Thank you for sharing. I find myself having two big issues with Thiel’s long-standing argument.

    The first is that it takes an absolutist view on progress. His writing will often look at some areas where progress has been stagnant and say “look, society has slowed down!” But progress is always lumpy. Some categories always improve more than others. Material science and LI-on batteries are two areas with huge amounts of progress. Even in the “golden era” many areas saw little to no progress, like metallurgy. It also leads to discounting a ton of progress, especially in telecoms and computing, that are really quite dramatic. One thing that will always stick with me is a Stephen Levy meditation on Microsoft Excel explaining how big company accounting used to work. I don’t know how that can’t be called progress.

    The second issue is that some areas where we’ve seen a lack of progress, or even devolution, comes down to political issues rather than technological ones. For example, average travel times have gone up in the US. But that is primarily due to political issues, such as land use and corruption in procurement, not a lack of progress in rail tech or anything like that. I suppose that’s stagnation of a kind, but my read on the “what happened to the future?” thesis has always been that it’s a technical progress driven argument, not a general social observation. If you consider this is an unfair reading please let me know.

    For what its worth, I rather enjoyed this review more than most of his other writing on this subject. It felt like his theory on stagnation is more mature. It seems to me that it’s just in recent years that people other than Thiel have started to feel like society has stagnated in this way; I think the rapid shift in perception is more interesting than the claimed phenomenon itself and I consider this underexplored.

  4. Punctuated equilibrium > the punctuations (periods of new-niche formation/emergence and consequent rapid evolution/innovation) are unpredictable and unevenly distributed. Peter laments what he perceives as a recent lull in punctuation in some fields of applied scientific and economic endeavor mainly b/c he has lived through, participated in, and benefited from a breathtaking one in terms of both its speed and impact (the internet & mobile/internet). Although obviously a brilliant person and great investor, he’s not a polymath technologist (so far as I know), and so is prone to stumbling during extrapolations/inductive-leaps into adjacent high-tech fields (batteries, electric transportation, aeronautics). The future is certainly being realized faster and on more frontiers in parallel than ever before, but the pace is NOT something any individual or even society at large can control. We can encourage & enable progress by a) building open/free societies that reward innovation, and enable capital deployment into new ventures through sophisticated financial & legal infrastructure (like we have here in the SF Bay Area); b) setting intelligent/inspiring goals (Apollo program, Xprize, Manhattan Project, etc); c) providing economic incentives (e.g., tax credits for roof-top solar panels and electric car purchases) to encourage broad adoption of important new technology. But the convergences and breakthroughs that drive significant new niche formation and true sociopolitical/technical speciation seem to come on a schedule of their own. Which is why steadfastness and patience is a key attribute of all great innovator/investors. 😉

  5. In the early 90’s i took Internet speeds up 6 orders of magnitude in one step which changed everything. Had thought Moore’s law would do the rest. I missed something huge though–that being that the human attention span would drop so much into this "dopamine jacking" situation we’re in now. They say goldfish have longer attention spans. So many are "deaf" in the "hurry-worry". That seems like the biggest obstacle to tech right now. Beautiful Synergies exist yet they take longer than sound bites to explain.

  6. #post #resonance
    I thought i was going to go through another picture admiration click. I was wrong! Your comments resonate with many interactions in my current life. I have run into some attitude lately from both old and new friend who seem to have a fatalist attitude. But really they have stopped appreciating new ( really just new-old) way of looking at an aspect of their life.

    A recent example being a friend’s affinity for this blog post
    "https://jeffersonhour.com/blog/death". Their takeaway was one of pessimistic belief that America is truly dead and our nation is doomed. What could be farther from the truth? I see current turmoil as opportunity for improvement. If I somehow develop an attitude of despondency or fatalism for for the current government then it’s on my own head for not taking the time to talk to people who carry both zeal, and set of plans for updating the ways things get done.

    This problem not only exists in politics and social situations. It exists in any situation where someone is consciously, or unconsciously, "okay" with their current education and level of awareness. The problem is your own problem. Do something about it. Invention happens not only in the sciences, but in ourselves every single day.

  7. amen.

    Why can’t we see that we’re living in a golden age?:

    "Pessimism resonates. 6 per cent of Americans think that the world is improving. More Americans believe in astrology and reincarnation than in progress.

    In almost every way human beings today lead more prosperous, safer and longer lives — and we have all the data we need to prove it."

  8. And an update to Moore’s Law, post Tesla AI Day122 Years of Moore's Law + Tesla AI Update

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