I just finished the Clean Meat book, and I found the closing chapter on the psychology of meat consumption the most fascinating. It explains why vegetarians have been roughly the same percentage of the population for 30 years now, and why we should not expect continued evangelism and “education” to start converting the unconverted, unless something else changes. I think the availability of economically-attractive meat without animal suffering will be that change. I’ll share some of the research results and my own personal journey as a meat eater in remission.

Summary: We rationalize the cognitive dissonance of how we generally empathize with animal welfare (in wild animals, pets, laboratory animals) versus that special subset of animals we regard as food. For those animals we eat — wherever we draw the line (fish, chicken, red meat) — we discount the intelligence of edible animals and imagine that they do not suffer in their growth and harvesting. (I looked up the original research and posted excerpts below).

For the first time, I can see my rationalizations shifting. I can also see the contradictory thoughts in myself more clearly as I slowly change the foods that I eat, marching down the neuron-count in the karmic hierarchy of edible life forms (a framework from Todd).

Five years ago, it was obvious to me that I would eat fish but not dolphin if it were a food. Dolphins are just too smart. A couple years ago, Genevieve and I stopped eating octopus for the same reason. As for mainstream meat, I could see how my future self would condemn my present self, and yet, I could not make a change, not even a little bit, like “meatless Mondays.” I continued to eat meat at almost every meal.

But now I will be giving up red meat, and I can feel myself becoming more open minded to the suffering of pigs and cows, something I could not quite face head on before.

How did I make a change? It was in a dare to a life-long smoker — if she gave up all nicotine for 6 months, I would give up meat. I did it for her. I was willing to make this great sacrifice to hopefully rid her of a deep addiction. I don’t think I would have done it for myself (before slaughter-free alternatives were widely available).

And my meatless experiment was fascinating. I first noticed how my deeply-held beliefs of how hard this would be were dead wrong. Food tastes great. I have plenty of variety. I feel full between meals and have plenty of energy. It did not matter that vegetarian friends have been saying this for years; I could not internalize the logic or their happy existence proofs — I assumed giving up meat for 6 months was going to be the toughest thing I ever did.

And then a more subtle realization dawned on me — I was receptive to the social media rants of vegetarian friends and articles on animal welfare. In the past, I would look past them. I would not lean in, and I did not internalize their messages.

Most of us ignore the vegetarian prophets. The annoyance of their strident messages should be a clue as it triggers something we do not like in ourselves, that we want to shelter from scrutiny. Ignorance is our bliss.

I know that I will give up slaughtered chicken next when Memphis Meats grows clean meat without the animal. And then fish. Invertebrates like crabs and lobster will be the last to go (P.S. when other groups adjudicated on animal welfare and their capacity to suffer, it is interesting that both the lab research laws and the NAR rules for living payloads in hobby rockets draw the line at invertebrates — you can do whatever you want with them).

My thoughts and beliefs followed my actions, not the other way around.

This reminded me of a recent podcast with Adam Grant: “there’s all this research on behavioral integrity, which says that you’re basically supposed to practice what you preach. And I have been wondering lately if we’ve got that backward. And if, instead, what we should be doing is only preaching things that we already practice?”

The morality of animal welfare will likely lag the economic shift, just as it did with slavery and whale-hunting for blubber. After kerosene provided an economic alternative, we advanced our morality and outlawed whale hunting. The fifth-largest industry in America was quickly decimated, and our moral outrage followed.

This is why clean meat will be so catalytic to change. In 2012, I wrote a FB post about my investment thesis and the search for a cellular ag company that can scale (long before the founding of Memphis Meats or my investment in them):

“I believe that in a few years we will look back and marvel at the barbarism and stunning environmental waste of meat harvesting today.

Our circle of empathy generally expands over time, but sometimes as a retrospective rationalization. We don’t typically discuss the meat industry in polite conversations because we don’t want to face the inevitable cognitive dissonance (because bacon tastes so good). We don’t really want to know why USDA meat inspectors become vegetarian.

I think all of that will change when viable meat products are grown from cell cultures, not in the field. We will switch, and marvel at our former selves.”

The vegetarian preachers tried, for 30 years now. Once we change our practices, we can finally hear their pleas and join them, preaching what we practice.

9 responses to “Preach What You Practice: The Psychology of Meat Consumption”

  1. Glad to read you’re making these changes. I’d encourage you (in an entirely non-preachy way) not to wait until there are "replacements". As you noted, the alternatives to eating meat are perfectly satisfactory.

  2. Yes, and I am just finishing 6 months of vegetarianism. It was only after I changed my meat-eating behavior on a dare that I could absorb Yuval Noah Harari powerful passage on how "up til now, science and technology tended to worsen the lives of farm animals" in "one of the worst crimes in history."
    — from the book openingYuval Noah Harari on Farm Animal WelfareIn contrast to the 1%-er cows we imagine factory farms to be… these were from our new-year’s 2020 hike in the Stanford foothillsGiving up Red Meat

  3. Thanks for writing this for me as I couldn’t have said it better myself. Now I will share this with my myopic family and see if they stand firm on their barbarism.

  4. Good luck! I looked up Loughnan’s study on meat-eater’s attitudes:

    “How we construe animals and the human/animal boundary is critical to our willingness to eat them. In short, the way animals are perceived is intimately tied to eating meat.”

    “Most people find animal suffering emotionally disturbing and morally repugnant. As our meat consumption grows, so too do our expenditures on pets and the legal rights we afford animals. This reflects the “meat paradox”: Most people care about animals and do not want to see them harmed but engage in a diet that requires them to be killed and, usually, to suffer.”

    “The tension omnivores experience when reminded that their behavior may not match their beliefs and values, and the resolution of this tension by changing those beliefs, fits with the theory of cognitive dissonance. Whereas some people (e.g., vegetarians) reduce this negative state by changing their actions, others may do so by strategically changing their beliefs, specifically about animals’ minds, suffering, and moral standing.”

    “We found a strong negative relationship between attributed mind and edibility. Eating a more “mindful” animal was also judged as more morally wrong and more subjectively unpleasant. These findings hold across diverse samples, with other research showing that American, Canadian, Hong Kong Chinese, and Indian consumers report less willingness to eat “mindful” animals and more disgust at the thought of doing so.”

  5. 1) Fantastic that deep thinking is coming to this issue from top minds in applied technology…
    2) Fantastic > Memphis Meats, Beyond Meat, Impossible Burger…big investment from top tier venture firms earning real revenue at scale and drawing exciting valuations in the public markets >> this is no longer a fringe trend…
    3) Human population beyond ~ 1 billion drives separation of an increasingly large portion of the overall species from direct involvement in procurement/production of foods, especially those involving hunting/fishing. At 2 billion, concentration-farming of animals (factory farming) rears its head for the first time at scale, and at current population of ~7 billion, humans and their factory farmed animals are 96% of the mammalian biomass of the planet and the horrors of Auschwitz-like factory farms for fish, fowl, and red-meat species have proliferated around the globe becoming an astonishing source of environmental degradation and horrific cruelty on an unimaginable scale. >> We as a species have created a real, multi-dimensional global emergency.
    4) As one who has studied and lived this issue deeply for over 20 years (morally, scientifically), I can attest, as a 190lb euro-male hunter beast, that one can do three things to HELP solve this insanely out of control problem while alt.meat products become increasingly affordable/delicious/available: a) eat a little meat, but not a lot…this goes VERY FAR…the mediterranean diet where meats are a garnish (~4 oz of fish or meat protein a day) is plenty, and heathy, and if everyone went to that mode, it would solve 90% of this problem; b) just stop buying any animal-ag products that you can’t trace to cruelty-minimized, natural, non-factory farmed producers. This takes HUGE effort, and you will fail many times (e.g., at business dinners where you have no control of the place chosen), but the EFFORT will pay off and eventually you’ll be able to look your self in the mirror and say, "last year. I spent a very small fraction of my food $$ on products that came from places I did not morally/ecologically approve of." Again, not perfect, but if everyone got to 90% on this measure, it would have a MASSIVE global impact on humanity’s carbon/environmental/cruelty footprint; c) don’t preach, but DO TALK THIS ISSUE UP when appropriate with friends, family and influencers you know…Do some factual myth-busting, talk solutions, and mention how YOU are struggling with the issue and trying to help (like SJ did in this great blog post)…Most of the world seems very aware of this issue and ready for solutions (not religion). And no one except for maybe a few seriously/criminally deranged humans wants any of our animal mothers/brothers/sisters to have to endure what goes on inside factory farms.

  6. Of course, as beef, and other meats/fish, are used less and less for food, the need to maintain those herds of cattle, etc, will be reduced to the point that few will survive, no? So we’ll maintain a few zoos so we can see what they used to looked like….. more moral? As measured in methane production perhaps… 😉 Actually, I would look forward to a viable substitute for meat…. but I’m not ready yet…

  7. I don’t think we need to worry about that… the industrial cattle are bred through artificial insemination… and so we just stop forcing their reproduction. Some rural farmers might keep some as pets. The fish will be fine without us farming them!

    Meanwhile, more practice…. It’s just ImpossibleIt's Impossible...

  8. Moby just directed me to a fun NYT article today that mentions his documentary on Memphis Meats:

    "As with the pandemic, it seemed possible that the scientists were going to save us from ourselves.

    The next morning, slightly hung over, I ran into Moby, as one does when the only thing one can do is walk around the block. He told me he was a producer on “Meat The Future,” a documentary that follows the start-up Memphis Meats on its journey to bring cell-based meats to market.

    I told him I couldn’t wait to try cell-based meat. He told me that he’d never eat the stuff.

    “It makes me think of a Rube Goldberg device,” he said. “Black beans and brown rice is a nutritionally perfect food and it basically costs nothing. The response that people have is to reinvent what is already there and is perfect.”

    So, why, I asked, did he make a movie to publicize their work?

    He looked at me as if he wondered why he had to explain. “We live in a broken world filled with irrational institutions. If you want to change the world, you have to work inside those irrational institutions.”

  9. I empathize with the disgust some vegans have in promoting cultured meat and meat-like alternatives.

    But here’s the rub — vegan evangelism has not moved the needle for 30 years, and per-capita meat consumption continues to grow. Our investment thesis is to transition the meat lovers.

    We have to.

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