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Breakfast at Bucks is like a walk down memory lane for me, with a story at each table. This artifact caught my eye anew, and the story on the placard seemed surreal:

“File this under: What the heck (we) they thinking? [sic =) ]
In 1996 we hired the Chinese government to launch a Loral communications satellite of ours [made in Palo Alto]. It took off sideways, flew 3 miles and leveled a village. This solar panel was purloined (repatriated?) from the quarantined crash site.”

I generally have to take the tales with a grain of salt, but sure enough, it was quite a disaster capping a string of haywire flights for the Long March rocket.

From the Washington Post:
“For years before that accident, Chinese space executives tried to cover up the causes of the errors, U.S. industry executives said. In almost every case, the Chinese denied that their Long March rockets had been at fault and blamed the Western-built satellites.

Then, on Jan. 25, 1995, the top of a Long March disintegrated just as it hit supersonic speeds and encountered high-altitude winds. Again, a Hughes satellite was destroyed. This time the rocket’s debris fell on villagers — the Chinese said six people were killed, but Westerners believe the toll was higher.
Again, Hughes privately argued bitterly with the Chinese, who blamed the company’s satellite. And again, Western space experts didn’t believe them. “The Chinese just kept blaming Hughes,” one U.S. space executive said.

Then the Loral satellite — Intelsat 7A — blew up [on Valentine’s Day, 1996. I remember that day as they day Sabeer and I signed the series A term sheet for Hotmail]. The Chinese rocket detonated 22 seconds into flight, obliterating the hotel where Western observers had dropped off their luggage only hours before. U.S. engineers were held in a bunker for five hours before they could retrieve the melted pieces of their three-ton satellite, which was to have beamed TV shows to Latin America for Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.

In the following days, China said six mountain villagers burned and choked to death in the cascade of flaming rocket propellant [six again, the party line]. Later they raised the estimate to 26, and then, after an Israeli engineer’s tape of blazing rubble circulated in the United States, Chinese officials hiked their toll to 56. But U.S. defense intelligence officials estimate the deaths at about 200.”

15 responses to “Chinese Space Junk”

  1. communists = liars = heartless

    no surprises here at all.
    totally consistent.

  2. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex] capitalists = greedy = go for cheapest price = get screwed by heartless, communist, liars. Happens every day, now heartless communist liars control US dollar.

    no surprises here at all.
    totally consistent.

  3. the minor difference being the capitalists were actually concerned about the civilians killed by the falling debris, unlike the communists

    of course compared to the 30 Million civilians deliberately starved to death or murdered between 1965-75 by the communists, debating 6 vs. 200 is but a trifle

  4. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex] Yes, and now they control the dollar… black cat, white cat as long as it catches mice it’s a good cat.

  5. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex] He is the guy that understood us better than we understand ourselves.

  6. because in india we still +/- stick to the concept of dharma
    deng is not understood at all

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma

  7. http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/Disaster-at-Xichang...

    "In January 1995, a Long March 2E rocket carrying a Hughes Apstar satellite exploded shortly after launch from Xichang. According to Campbell, horror stories from contractors who had witnessed the explosion prompted Intelsat and Loral managers to forbid employees from watching the liftoff from the roof of the hotel, which, along with a large residential area for Chinese employees of the center, was just three miles from the launch pad, and not far off the rocket’s flight path.

    On the eve of the Intelsat-708 launch—scheduled for 2:51 a.m. on February 15, 1996—all personnel and guests at the hotel were ordered by Loral to go to the satellite preparation building, located south of the rocket’s expected flight path and separated from the launch pad by steep mountains. Several young local women from the hotel staff, exhausted by a long workday, pleaded to be allowed to stay behind to catch up on sleep, but Loral managers were unyielding—a decision that may have saved the workers’ lives."

    "Bruce Campbell did go back to China for two successful launches of Loral-built satellites. He discovered that the village that used to border the launch center has disappeared, as if it never existed. There is no memorial to the victims, and their fate has never been mentioned in the state-controlled Chinese press."

  8. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/02/opinion/on-chinas-state-sponso...

    "That reminded me of something another teacher told me. She had asked her students from China if they had heard about the death by starvation of 30 to 40 million people during the so-called “three years of natural disasters” in the early 1960s. Her students responded with stunned silence, as if she, a teacher in Hong Kong, was brazenly fabricating history to attack their mother country."

    "In today’s China, amnesia trumps memory. Lies are surpassing the truth. Fabrications have become the logical link to fill historical gaps. Even memories of events that have only just taken place are being discarded at a dazzling pace, with barely intelligible fragments all that remain for people to hold on to."

    "In this country money now has an almighty power that can seal people’s lips and dry writers’ pens. It can also force literary imagination to fly in the opposite direction of truth and conscience.

    It doesn’t matter whether you are a writer, a historian or social scientist. You will be awarded power, fame and money as long as you are willing to see what is allowed to be seen, and look away from what is not allowed to be looked at; as long as you are willing to sing the praises of what needs to be praised and ignore what needs to be blanked out."

    "We must also look at Chinese intellectuals, as we appear to be content with this forced amnesia.

    This is the starkest difference between Chinese intellectuals and our peers in other countries in different times. Take writers in the former Soviet Union as examples. Despite the extreme totalitarian terror and the rigid censorship, writers such as Mikhail Bulgakov, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Boris Pasternak still managed to leave us with a long list of masterpieces such as “The Master and Margarita,” the “Gulag Archipelago” and “Doctor Zhivago.” These works did not rebel against state power; they are more about preserving and restoring a nation’s memories."

    that’s true.
    i can’t think of a single book that’s the chinese equivalent of Solzhenitsyn’s books…….

    chinese intellectuals remind me of Ural Tansykbayev.
    to get the reference you must see the film Desert of Forbidden Art which describes Tansykbayev and millions like him deeply.

    http://www.desertofforbiddenart.com/about

  9. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex]

    ""Bruce Campbell did go back to China for two successful launches of Loral-built satellites"

    Bruce doesn’t seem much interested in Chinese adharma, does he?

    China versus India?

    Somehow the Chinese have taught their entire population to read and write, although reading and writing Chinese ideograms is very difficult, whereas India has one of the world’s highest rates of illiteracy. China has also managed to lift millions out of abject poverty and India is still filled with millions of people sleeping and defecating in the streets. Dharma Schmarma… hypocrisy is hypocrisy… black cat, white cat…

  10. bruce and all his colleagues who have kept quiet till now all have failed ethically as individuals

    what you say about india is true, thanks to being under socialists for 60 years,
    stinking scum like nehru who adored stalin.
    http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc0503/nehru.htm

    thanks to the Socialists emasculating india,
    indian citizens were even banned from owning or flying the Indian Flag.
    it took a US-returned Capitalist to fight the Socialist government
    in a long court battle to win ordinary citizens the right to fly their country’s flag,
    finally in the year 2004
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex/7787885956/

    the real start date for india is 1991 under narasimha rao.
    and it takes more than a few years to overcome entrenched institutional corruption and Stalinism.

    see http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex/5433752599/

    it is debatable if chinese citizens are truly better off than indian slum-dwellers.
    here is an essay straight to that point –
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/opinion/the-year-of-the-stray-...

    "Mother gave me a portion of her dumplings to show her love. A few wisps of white hair fell onto a face that was beaming with happiness. “Our country is rich now. Isn’t it wonderful!” she said. “We can now have meat-filled dumplings, as often as we ate wild grass when we were poor.”

    My elder brother was a postman who rode a bicycle to deliver letters all his working life. He is now retired and drives a car I bought with royalties from my books. “Why do people hate the government?” he asked me while driving to visit a relative in a remote mountain village. “Our lives are good. Isn’t that enough?”

    "“Make friends with people in power,” my mother whispered in my ear. “Don’t do anything to annoy them.”

    My brother sent me a text message after I left. “I didn’t say this to you because it was a festive time. Remember: Never do anything to annoy the government, no matter what.”

    My nephew accompanied me to the nearby highway entrance ramp. “My mother asked me to tell you,” said the boy hesitantly, “Look after your health. Don’t write too much, and if you really must write, then write something that praises the government and the nation. Don’t become foolish with age.”

    As I drove, tears streamed down my face for no apparent reason. I just wanted to cry. Was it for my mother, my brother, my relatives and the strangers who forget about their dignity as long as they have enough to eat? Or for people like me who worship rights and dignity but live the life of a stray dog? I don’t know. I just wanted to cry out loud."

    the Soviet Union boasted 100% literacy.
    great!

    the communist state of Kerala boasts 100% literacy to this day.
    it has zero industry and lives off the remittances of keralites
    working as indentured servants in the gulf countries.

    and with it’s communist 100% literacy Kerala is nowhere even near the map
    when comes to programming and IT…….

  11. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex]

    with it’s communist 100% literacy Kerala is nowhere even near the map
    when comes to programming and IT…….

    Which makes you doubt programming and IT as a way forward for developing a society. Literacy is the number one thing for the development of women, birth control, etc, it is the door to everything else. You begin to sound like a fan of Ayn Rand’s

  12. > "You begin to sound like a fan of Ayn Rand’s"

    that sir was uncalled for.
    i have never ever consorted with fascists, Left or Right.
    and since the facts are on my side, i have no need for personal attacks.

    Kerala has boasted 100% literacy for 40 years.
    i have seen no improvement in people’s lives there as a result.

    and i mention IT and software as quintessential "literate" pursuits,
    where Kerala would have been assumed to have had an advantage
    thanks to Communists dedicated to literacy and women’s development.

    millions of developed empowered women computer programmers for instance.

    nope. zero. nada. zilch. bupkus!

    as a scientist i have to go with the evidence.
    for the last 15 years the IT sector has been booming all over india, but not in kerala.

  13. I mentioned the peculiar pattern of Chinese officials claiming that 6 villagers died in each mishap to a U.S. space executive recently. He immediately confirmed that the government has figured out the maximum number of allowed deaths in a catastrophe so as to not raise alarm. The number is 28 today. So, if a major train accident or industrial mishap occurs, look for 28 deaths.

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